westbam wrote:My site now enjoys quite a substantial amount of traffic, however my income has not increase at all in the last 3 years... What am i doing wrong?
I feel your pain and your frustration, but unfortunately, we're just guessing what you're doing wrong, because you haven't shown us your site.
Put yourself in our position. What would you think if you were asked to give an opinion on some marketing methods when you weren't allowed to see the website? Would you waste your breath answering? You'd probably say, "There are a 100 things you could be doing wrong."
Seriously, do you need to protect your site from our eyes? You've told us the results are disappointing. Do you really think any of us would want to steal what you say is a bad idea?
If we want to find good ideas for niche sites, all we have to do is go to Amazon and do a search for Dummies books. Those guys have done all the careful research for us. If they've published a book on a topic, we jolly well know for sure there's a market for it, and a niche website on the topic should do well.
So why would we steal your idea when there are much better ideas out there to copy?
If I tried to help you, it would be both hands tied behind my back and wearing a blindfold.
OK, I'm in a good mood, I'll try anyway... :)
when i started my forum, i thought it would help my income.
Well, it might, but in my experience, running a forum is something you do because you enjoy it. There are much more effective, less time-consuming ways of earning a living.
My google adsense is a joke, it took me 2 years to reach the £60 threshold.
People who go to forums seem to be single minded. They go there looking for information, and maybe to make a post. It's big challenge trying to lure them away with AdSense ads. I've seen some forums where they place AdSense ads right between posts. If you can find out how to do that, it might be worth experimenting with. I haven't tried it.
I think a more profitable tactic would be to lure people away from the forum to the rest of your site - assuming the rest of your site is worth visiting, of course.
i've covered my site in ads, taken them off, covered my site in googles adsense
In my experience, it's much easier to make money with words, than with ads. I won't spend a lot of time guessing what you're doing wrong, but ideally you need your visitors to see you as a friend who helps them decide what to buy. Your articles do that, not ads.
I tried an entry email sign-in and an exit sign-up option
If it didn't work, you didn't promise your visitors something they desperately wanted.
Last time i sent a newsletter out, less than 50 people actually opened it
The subject line didn't promise them something they desperately wanted. OR maybe your previous newsletters were so uninteresting and unhelpful that your readers now filter your newsletters into a folder they don't look at. That's a huge challenge for all newsletter publishers these days.
Sometimes I wonder how many people are reading our newsletters, and then one day we put out one that strikes a nerve and bam! Suddenly you get a really good result.
It's a matter of seeing things through THEIR eyes, answering the questions they want answered. Some days we manage it, some days we don't.
Imagine ONE particular reader. Really SEE that one person. Write to him. Help him make decisions.
"Sell related products that's a good idea" .... what a joke!
Nope, it's definitely not a joke. It's truly excellent advice.
Our challenge is to try to figure out where you're going wrong in implementing that excellent advice.
Here's why you promote related products...
Picture someone coming to your site hunting for certain information. What would be the perfect product to sell to that person? A product that provides exactly the information they're seeking. You couldn't get better than that.
If such a product doesn't exist, perhaps you could create a 20-page PDF report and sell it - or sell a variety of such reports for different sub-niches.
Or, you want visitors who are hunting for a particular product, and your site sells it. They have one thing in mind, and you provide exactly what they're looking for.
Second best, would be a very closely related product. Then you'd have explain why they need that product.
I've promoted 'Hostgator' (my webhost) for years, I've made not one red cent in affiliate commissions. Godaddy.com etc the same. Marketingtips.com books, Kens ebooks, Site Sell .... not a dime!
Probably because your visitors did not come to your site with those topics in mind.
If they come to find out about fake watches and you try to sell them web hosting, you're on the wrong track.
i've bought a lot of Ken's pre-sell courses, and my whole site is one big ... pre-sell concept
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.
Because it's not working, I suspect it almost certainly is NOT one big pre-sell. Somehow, it's seriously flawed. We both know that. We just don't know where the flaws are.
My strong recommendation: Re-read the advice you paid for, and take notes as you read. On a second or third reading, you'll often see things you skimmed over first time round.
Reading this article of mine may help too.. http://www.AssociatePrograms.com/articl ... tood-skill
Basically it's an information and review site. I deal with problems in the counterfeit market, and provide comparison reviews of both fake and genuine products.
Sounds as though it has possibilities.
Something to consider... If they're doing Google searches for "fake watches", are they trying to buy one or AVOID buying one? You need to know the answer before you can decide what to sell them. Study the keywords that are used to find your site.
Years ago, one problem we noticed with our forum on AssociatePrograms.com was that quite a lot of forum members didn't know that the rest of the site existed.
They probably had a list of forums they visited regularly. They would dart in, single-minded, read a few posts and then click their next bookmarked link.
So we redesigned the site (see top left of this page - a powerful position because most people start reading there) to encourage them to explore the rest of the site. That helped a lot, getting people to read other pages on the site, read articles and click and buy things.
No doubt we could have done it a lot better. We're now working on another redesign of the site.
Look for ways to entice your visitors from your forum to your best-selling review pages. From time to time, we've experimented with eye-catching, prominent links, high on the page. Try that. They worked for us, and we really ought to do more of them.
If you get them right, and take your visitors to well written, persuasive, helpful preselling pages, they should work much better than ads or AdSense.
If you keep changing those links frequently, you'll find out exactly which articles or reviews entice your visitors.