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Tue May 24, 2005 11:24 am

Here is a Example of A Gateway Doorway Page That is spidered by the search engines and listed just as a everyday html based webpage, however when a surfer clicks on a the link coming off the search engine he is redirected right to you root index or main page.
these we made for a hosting company that now has increased revenue almost 7 times what it was prior and all of the webpages have not been picked up yet. The engines generally start to pick them up with in two weeks from subbmision, they then follow the path that we have laid down going from one link to another, and picking them up one at a time and listing them on the engine, google and yahoo both spider these very easily, and they are not considered spam, the search engines take these to be a html page unto its own.
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you will see the page as it would normally redirect to the root ie.. index.html page or index what ever page, (but i took out the redirect to show you what the page would look like)these is what gives it the structure to get picked up and spidered, in most cases about 100 of these are best to maximize traffic to your site and they will help quite a bit with page rank, ect... and so on.
you have to be very careful and each and every one must be structured different and link together so the spider can follow them.
also each must have a different page name.
we construct these for a very reasonable cost and if needed but you can also do them yourself however keep in mind all must be different and link one to another.
TurnkeyWebsites4Sale
 
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Wed May 25, 2005 3:40 am

This looks like a form of cloaking to me - deliberately fooling the search engines. Isn't that likely to get such sites penalized by Google if anyone tells Google what you're doing?
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looks like cloaking

Wed May 25, 2005 4:32 am

That looks like cloaking, but that seems to be the way a lot of people making "big money" are going. Even a marketer I really respect seems to be using and advocating this method. :(
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I thaught that Google doesn?t see javascript?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:45 pm

"This looks like a form of cloaking to me - deliberately fooling the search engines. Isn't that likely to get such sites penalized by Google if anyone tells Google what you're doing?"


Hi,

You are talking about cloaking here. Well I am just a newbie, but wanna learn here.

I thaught that Google doesn?t see javascript?

How can then the site be penalized by Google?

Looking forward to get an explanation,

// Marina
isxp
 
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Sun Jun 19, 2005 4:17 am

I wish people would find a legitimate way to make extra income. That seems to me like one of those pages full of gibberish which is loaded with keywords. How is that useful to anyone? I can tell you right now when I run into that garbage I boycott the offender. I think a lot of people feel the same way as me and will take our potential business elsewhere when we run into blatant laziness scams of this sort.

Bad business.
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Re: I thaught that Google doesn?t see javascript?

Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:55 am

isxp wrote:How can then the site be penalized by Google?

A competing site can report the site to Google, which can click on View/Source in a browser and view the source code, see cloaking and penalize the site.
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Re: I thaught that Google doesn?t see javascript?

Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:58 pm

AllanGardyne wrote:A competing site can report the site to Google, which can click on View/Source in a browser and view the source code, see cloaking and penalize the site.


I think it's important to note that this doesn't guarantee the site will be penalized. From what I've read Google rarely goes about penalizing individual sites, they'd be busy for a lifetime if they did.

I'm not saying don't report foul play, but don't expect Google to act on your information immediately, if ever. Generally they take those complaints and make algorithm changes to deal with the biggest ones.
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javascript redirects

Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:19 pm

I've been using javascript redirects for a couple reasons and I'm wondering what the chances of getting banned are? I use the redirects to hide affiliate links and also have just one page that needs updated if affiliate changes, rather than having to change all links in site.

Now the the redirect page is coming up in the top of some search results, I of course like the traffic coming from these links but I'm worried that a competitor will report the pages to G. Above Robert mentions G doesn't have time to mess with individual sites, do others agree with this?

If I do decide to change the redirects, does anyone know of some accepted methods of cloaking links and making it easy to change affiliate link when affiliate changes?

John
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Re: javascript redirects

Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:32 pm

beingcre8tive wrote:...does anyone know of some accepted methods of cloaking links and making it easy to change affiliate link when affiliate changes?

I use .htaccess redirects. If you search the forum, you'll find posts on the subject.

If an affiliate merchant changes its links I can go into one plain text file, change one line, upload the file to the server, and that can change links on dozens of pages. I've been using this system for several years.

It also gives you neat, tidy links for use in newsletters. And if produce ebooks, you can use links like example.com/link.html and if the merchant changes the link you're still in control long after the ebook has been published and distributed.
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Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:32 pm

Google probably will penalize this kind of site, giving PageRank ZERO.
Play with the rules. This is SPAM.
It can work or a litle time, but...
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Re: I thaught that Google doesn?t see javascript?

Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:11 am

You have to ask yourself, "why do people use search engines like Google?" They use them to find information and products that they are interested in.

So if people use forms of cloaking and things that redirect then results will show up in Google and people will click on them only to find that they are being redirected or taken to a page that has totally different information/products on than what they wanted to look for.

So if things like this is happening then Google will ban your site or penilize it as you are just spamming their search engine and putting information into their search engine that is not really there.

This in return could end up making Google loose alot of their visitors.

So I would imagine the Google would do something about people using Cloaking and Doorway pages and other means of spamming their site.

robertb wrote:
AllanGardyne wrote:A competing site can report the site to Google, which can click on View/Source in a browser and view the source code, see cloaking and penalize the site.


I think it's important to note that this doesn't guarantee the site will be penalized. From what I've read Google rarely goes about penalizing individual sites, they'd be busy for a lifetime if they did.

I'm not saying don't report foul play, but don't expect Google to act on your information immediately, if ever. Generally they take those complaints and make algorithm changes to deal with the biggest ones.
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